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Man's mismanagement of our planet is a big concern for the young and old alike. Some wonder if the process on the ruination of our planet can be reversed, or at least stopped.

What do you think? How much further damage will be done? Is there a point of no return? Will man ruin the earth beyond repair?

Are the actions of the politicians our only and the last hope for saving the planet?

You are invited to share your feelings in this topic. You may also explore the current issue of the Watchtower magazine with this very question:
Will Man Ruin the Earth Beyond Repair?

[Edited by: Chipmunk2 at 9/18/2014 12:38:39 PM EST]
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Chipmunk2
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SemiSteve: "If we only had enough people so that everyone could have only the best food then the quality of life would be better than it is now."

Are you suggesting that our planet now is overpopulated?

In my last post I used the improper food distribution as an example of many other problems that have resulted in the decreasing quality of life. So the general fear and anxiety about the future of our planet has its real causes. Man's inability to prevent this ominous trend just underlines mankind's need for God.

Man's difficulties with obtaining proper food started with the expulsion of Adam and Eve from the paradise of Eden. God vocalized His sentence against Adam and by implications also against all his descendants by saying to Adam:

(Genesis 3:17-19) 17 ...“Because you listened to your wife’s voice and ate from the tree concerning which I gave you this command, ‘You must not eat from it,’ cursed is the ground on your account. In pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life. 18 It will grow thorns and thistles for you, and you must eat the vegetation of the field. 19 In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.”

The effects of the cursed ground, with its thorns and thistles, were keenly felt by the descendants of Adam (Ge 3:17, 18), so that Noah’s father Lamech spoke of “the pain of our hands resulting from the ground which Jehovah has cursed.” (Ge 5:29) After the Flood, Jehovah blessed Noah and his sons, stating that his purpose for them was to fill the earth. (Ge 9:1) God’s curse on the ground was apparently lifted. (Ge 13:10) However, Jehovah did not, as in perfect Adam’s case, tell Noah and his family to ‘subdue the earth.’ (Compare Ge 1:28 with Ge 8:21–9:2.) This suggests that imperfect man, without divine guidance, could never subdue the earth in the way God had originally purposed. Man would continue experiencing difficulties in cultivating the soil, including having to fight such troublesome plants as thorns and thistles. Undoubtedly man’s mismanagement of earth’s resources has increased his problems in this regard.

Divine promises to do away with the results of sin introduced by rebellion against God's stated law, are the ones that deserve man's utmost attention, trust and appreciation.

You can read more about them in the brochure:

Good News From God!

In it, SemiSteven, you can find the answers to some of the perplexing questions about God that you raised in the topic: "There is no God. Here is why."
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Hello again Chipmunk.

OK, so you want to have the food discussion.

The only way we can feed everybody is to use GMO and processed food.

But that's not the healthiest food we could have.

Ever since we began doing that cancer is on the rise.

Having more people on the planet but higher cancer rates yields a decreased quality of life.

If we only had enough people so that everyone could have only the best food then the quality of life would be better than it is now.

There would not be as much cancer and people would lead happier lives.
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SemiSteve: "It's not like we need more humans on the planet."

Can the overpopulation be honestlly blamed for all the problems that you mentioned?

Consider this:

If someone locked me in my office, most people wouldn’t blame my resulting demise on “the overpopulation of the office” but on the cruel person who locked me in. Similarly, if government policies prevent food from being transported to where it is needed, or distributed to those who are hungry, “overpopulation” is not to blame. It’s the policy, SemiSteve.
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Hello, good people.

As long as there remains strong followings for God, the planet is doomed.

Yes, money and power play a huge role, but I see a different problem tied to religion.

The problem is we have a finite planet with finite resources but most religions tell the followers to go forth and multiply. OK, humans have done that. Now what?

It's not like we need more humans on the planet.

But we just can't stop ourselves. Everybody thinks it is their right to contribute to overpopulation. That's fine for now, but it can't go on like that forever.

And we can have all the discussions we want about food supply and other resources. And these are very real threats to our longevity. Our food is becoming increasingly processed in order to be mass produced. And that unhealthy food is not helping us to be strong and resilient. It leaves many vulnerable to disease.

One thing that concerns me is some kind of bug. A virus.

With populations becoming increasingly dense, and the world 'getting smaller' with faster travel and more of it, the problem of having a highly infectious and contagious disease get loose is very real. Sooner or later there is going to be one that we can't do anything about.

And we are seeing antibiotic resistant bugs becoming stronger and stronger. Overuse of antibiotics is making that problem worse.

Our demise could be something we don't think about a whole lot.
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Global Stagnation is around the corner...hide the kids.
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Chip: the reason I questioned that was the basis of the way the question was asked.

Glad to hear you don't. Politicians won't solve this and any faith in them is doomed for failure.

Have a blessed day.
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Cirdan: "Reminds me of the old saying, "Man plans, God laughs""

Exactly. God laughs especially when man's plans ignore or reject God's directives.
God Word, the Bible says that God who observes from above man's activities here on earth, laughs.

(Psalm 2:1-4)

1 "Why are the nations agitated
And the peoples muttering an empty thing?
2 The kings of the earth take their stand
And high officials gather together as one
Against Jehovah and against his anointed one.
3 They say: “Let us tear off their shackles
And throw off their ropes!”
4 The One enthroned in the heavens will laugh;
Jehovah will scoff at them."
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Reminds me of the old saying, "Man plans, God laughs"
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GasMan4u: "I would highly recommend not putting your faith in any man."

I do, GasMan. What led led you to believe that I do not?
I am keenly aware of the wise warning from God's Word, the Bible:

(Psalm 146:3-6)

 3 "Do not put your trust in princes
Nor in a son of man, who cannot bring salvation.
4 His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground;
On that very day his thoughts perish.
5 Happy is the one who has the God of Jacob as his helper,
Whose hope is in Jehovah his God,
6 The Maker of heaven and earth,
Of the sea, and of all that is in them,
The One who always remains faithful,..."
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Chip, I would highly recommend not putting your faith in any man, party, or movement - for you will surely be let down or deceived.

Keep your faith where it belongs.

Just my thoughts

Good luck

[Edited by: GasMan4u2 at 10/17/2015 9:57:46 PM EST]
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GasMan4u2: "God's Kingdom will surely be better than anything man can make or do."

This is true and I agree with you 100%

GasMan4u2: "...why would we ever depend upon political leaders or governments that are corrupt to resolve the problem - if there is one, with the environment? Do so so would be a folly."

This is also true. Yet, many of those claiming to be Christians show that they depend upon political leaders. Even the pope himself depends upon the rulers of this world. His recent environmental initiatives show where his hope is placed.

In his resent speech at the UN last month did not include anything about God's Kingdom. Although he correctly linked "a selfish and boundless thirst for power and material prosperity" with the "misuse and destruction of the environment" he failed to bring honor to God, and disappointed many sincerely concerned with the ruination of our planet. Just empty rhetoric and repetition of meaningless points that do not inspire hope.

Here is the summary of his points about climate and environment: "The adoption of the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development at the World Summit, which opens today, is an important sign of hope. I am similarly confident that the Paris Conference on Climatic Change will secure fundamental and effective agreements."

He described the above measures as "a necessary step toward solutions." Nothing about God's Kingdom. Does he really believe that God will answer the prayer that his Son taught his followers to pray: "...Let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth? (Matthew 6:10)

One of the many blessings of God's Kingdom one is very comforting for those who would like to see Freedom From Natural Disasters
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Hey Chipmunk

Thanks for the link, good read, but I am confused. God's Kingdom will surely be better than anything man can make or do. So why would we ever depend upon political leaders or governments that are corrupt to resolve the problem - if there is one, with the environment? Do so so would be a folly.

As individuals, we can make an impact on our own environment. Take care of the little things, and let God take care of the big ones! It does not good to worry. Turn that over to God.

GasMan4u2

[Edited by: GasMan4u2 at 10/11/2015 9:58:45 PM EST]
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GasMan4u2: "Be honest and truthful -- that's all that I ask."

This is a very commendable desire and expectation. Yet it is getting harder and harder to find honesty and truthfulness in the world in which we live. The lack of these things in today's world coupled with greed and selfishness are at the roots of ruining our planet. Would you not agree?

I thought that you may be comforted to read about A Government With No Corruption
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Hey Chipmunk2:

Thank you for your kind words. We should all be good stewards of our environment, my problem with the political types getting involved with junk science to make a political move to redistribute wealth to whomever they choose. --- and themselves too --- because they know better than us lowly types.

Be honest and truthful -- that's all that I ask.

Green peas....

And is almost hockey night!!

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Thank you, GasMan4u, for your sincere and honest answer to the topic's question.

One thing that I need to clarify is, that I have said nothing about Al Gore and his reasons for the climate change. It was somebody else, representing the churches of divided and polarized christendom willing to support wars in which they risk killing one another, even from the same denomination. I and my fellow-believers have nothing to do with them, and we continue to stay neutral regarding the politics of this world. Do you, GasMan4u, personally like to see religion's involvement in politics?

I share your feelings you made evident by stating: "...to think creatures made in God's own likeness could destroy His creation, seems unbelievable." I have reasoned on this earlier in this topic. It is comforting to know that God IS interested in both: Us, as the work of His own hands (Job 14:15), and the home that He prepared for us to enjoy, the beautiful planet earth.

But as the ruination of our planet continues it becomes obvious that he will act soon, before man ruins completely everything including himself.
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Chipmunk2:

My last post was the long winded way of saying NO. That is your answer to if World leaders and Governments can save the WORLD!!
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Chipmunk2:

Sorry I haven't responded sooner....busy reducing CO2, SOX, and mercury emissions for some of my corporate clients. The fundamental problem I have is two fold. First is your belief in the junk science that blames Man for global cooling -> Global Warming -> climate change -> now climate chaos (the latest problem). Everything Al Gore stated I his movie has been proven wrong. During the climate warming phase, 7 of the planets in our solar system were experiencing higher temperatures - according to NASA, whom bounced lasers off each of the planets to get their temperature. It was a solar phase, not the abundance of SUVs. The polar bears are safe and growing in numbers.

Eco Activists state over and over the same BS and our media adopts it. When the ice in Greenland was melting scientist finally attributed it to underwater volcanoes - not the CO2 emitted by man and/or his machinery. One large volcanic eruption can emit more greenhouse gases in less than a minute than all the industry in the US for 200-300 years.

Depending on corrupt governments is naive at best. The is a pure and simple redistribution scheme.

I will be glad to join you in prayer for our natural resources. But to think creatures made in God's own likeness could destroy His creation, seems unbelievable.

Governments are not nor ever will be the solution. If there is a problem, then start with what you can control....hint....that guy is in the mirror. Walk the Walk you want others to adopt.
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jeperz: "...money, and power gets in the way!!"

Do you see any solution to this?
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heard it all before, to bad money, and power gets in the way!!
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Hey GasMan4u2,

Do you know that homelessness is not the only problem facing the world today?
In many countries the shelters are supported by the taxpayers money, and I am one of them. OTH there are countries that aggravate the problem of homelessness by their wars. Have you watched the news reports coming from Europe right now about millions being forced to leave their homes and seeking refuge in other countries? They do so at the risk of their lives.

This shows that the problem of wars should be addressed first. And again the world leaders and their governments are at lost how to address this problem. Their lack of unity regarding how to even address it does not inspire any hope.

It is exactly as God's Word the Bible foretold for the time of the end: (Luke 21:25) "...and on the earth anguish of nations not knowing the way."

There are other problems as well that need to be addressed, among them natural disasters, substance abuse, crime of all kinds, disintegration of family life.

Do you think the world leaders are truly our only hope to save the planet from being ruined?


[Edited by: Chipmunk2 at 9/13/2015 8:39:11 AM EST]
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GasMan4u2: "Set the example for all of us and donate all your possessions to the homeless shelter and move into a cave. Live off Mother Earth. Do this for two years and then come out of the wilderness and tell us your adventures!"

That sounds very provocative, and unloving. I happened to believe in the Bible and the hope that it gives me. I also believe in the truthfulness of this inspired verse:

(Matthew 6:2-4) 2 "So when you make gifts of mercy, do not blow a trumpet ahead of you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, so that they may be glorified by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. 3 But you, when making gifts of mercy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your gifts of mercy may be in secret. Then your Father who looks on in secret will repay you".

You would be wiser to confront those who act like such hypocrites, who seek praise and admiration from others.

And just remember that the topic is: "Will the World Leaders and their Governments Succeed in Saving the Planet?"

Any thoughts about this?
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Hey Chipmunck:

Set the example for all of us and donate all your possessions to the homeless shelter and move into a cave. Live off Mother Earth. Do this for two years and then come out of the wilderness and tell us your adventures!

If you want to save the earth, post your email address and I will send you a PO box to send your monthly check.

Thanks for caring so much.....it means a lot!

Xxxooo
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Jeperz: "never its all about power and money"

It is true. We can add also: man's ignorance. The web of life with all its interdependence and intricacies is still not well understood by man. Many of his failed experiments especially in agriculture lend ample evidence to his ignorance.

This in turn shows that we need help of the one who created this amazing and fascinating web of life, and we need this help desperately before this web is completely ruined. We need the governing of HIS Kingdom, which His Son so vigorously advocated while on earth and taught his followers to pray for its coming.

Is it still proper to pray for it, and how will that prayer be answered?
You may be comforted by the answers given under the heading: Why pray for God’s Kingdom to come?

[Edited by: Chipmunk2 at 9/2/2015 8:34:42 AM EST]
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never its all about power and money
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windrider: "the quest for money and power will keep it from happening"

That would be the case if the one who created our planet with a very impressive tune-up to accommodate all kinds of living things, would allow for this to happen.

The comforting thing about the planet's Creator is that he is not going to allow this ruination to continue until the planet is ruined completely.

Millions of concerned people draw this comfort from the Bible's prophetic statement that God will bring to ruin those ruining the earth. Revelation 11:18

Once those responsible for ruining the earth are removed what happens next is even more comforting:

Psalm 37:29
29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.

(Psalm 37:11) 11 "But the meek will possess the earth, And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace."

Abundance of peace means very desirable freedom from fear about the earth's future. The one who created it and gave the custody over it to man, is in the best position to guide and direct the man about how to benefit from the earth's resources in a most optimal way to sustain it for all eternity to come. The potential is there for our planet to continue forever as a delightful place for all to live, as a global paradise where love and peace keeps everyone happy, and thankful. When the whole world is governed by just one government - God's Kingdom, led by God's beloved Son, we can expect the realization of this heart-warming prophecy:

(Psalm 72:7,8,12-14,16)  7 In his days the righteous will flourish, And peace will abound until the moon is no more.  8 He will have subjects from sea to sea And from the River to the ends of the earth.... 12 For he will rescue the poor who cry for help, Also the lowly one and whoever has no helper. 13 He will have pity on the lowly and the poor, And the lives of the poor he will save. 14 From oppression and from violence he will rescue them, And their blood will be precious in his eyes.... 16 There will be an abundance of grain on the earth; On the top of the mountains it will overflow."

There are more things that God's Kingdom will accomplish that are even more exciting. You can read about them in the chapter:
What Is God’s Purpose for the Earth?

[Edited by: Chipmunk2 at 4/13/2015 2:39:09 PM EST]
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the quest for money and power will keep it from happening
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2015 9:19:11 AM

Our beautiful planet Earth has tremendous capacity for sustaining life. Yet, with the growing population and the alarming rate at which earth’s abundant resources are being gobbled up, you might wonder: ‘Could the unthinkable really happen? Will there always be enough food and resources?’

You may find comfort in reading the article:
Will the Earth Always Produce Enough to Sustain Life?
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2015 8:49:16 PM

This linked article (from the previous post) just verifies the truth of what was written by Jeremiah over 2600 years ago:

(Jeremiah 10:23) "23 I well know, O Jehovah, that man’s way does not belong to him. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step."

That is why, it is wise for those truly concerned about the future of our planet, with all its intricate ecosystems that not only sustain our life, but also make it enjoyable and fascinating to heed the warning:

(Psalm 146:3-7)  "3 Do not put your trust in princes Nor in a son of man, who cannot bring salvation.  4 His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground; On that very day his thoughts perish.  5 Happy is the one who has the God of Jacob as his helper, Whose hope is in Jehovah his God,  6 The Maker of heaven and earth, Of the sea, and of all that is in them, The One who always remains faithful,  7 The One securing justice for those defrauded, The One giving bread to the hungry."

When the Maker of heaven and earth intervenes to bring the change in the way our planet is governed and looked after, then it may be too late to obtain His favor and approval. It will be the time for what the Bible describes as His "vengeance on those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus. These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength" (2 Thessalonians 1:8, 9)

[Edited by: Chipmunk2 at 2/21/2015 9:50:20 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2015 1:11:28 PM

Al Gore is still pushing on ward.

Al Gore and Pharrell are right, we need to take action against greenhouse gases — THEIRS.

Al Gore is still wiggling. Organizing the “largest collaboration in the history of the world 1 billion voices” for summer 2015.
Al Gore is still wiggling. Organizing the “largest collaboration in the history of the world 1 billion voices” for summer 2015.
He is organizing a new world order of 7 events 7 continents to emphasize voice in the interest of focusing on climate change.
Just follow the money>
Mr. Gore has had the following list of companies that are associated with his funds and his pick for president of GIM:
AFLAC INC - AQUANTIVE INC - AUTODESK INC - BECTON DICKINSON & CO BLACKBAUD INC - GENERAL ELECTRIC CO - GREENHILL & CO INC - JOHNSON CTLS INC - LABORATORY CORP AMER HLDGS - METABOLIX INC - NORTHERN TR CORP - NUVEEN INVTS INC -STAPLES INC - SYSCO CORP - TECHNE CORP - UBS AG - VCA ANTECH INC - WATERS CORP - WHOLE FOODS MKT INC https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.global-warming/PMmCi8YRy9cAl Gore and Pharrell are right, we need to take action against greenhouse gases — THEIRS.

[Edited by: borsht at 2/20/2015 2:14:25 PM EST]
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madtoe: “If we can control sufficient quantities of energy it is entirely possible to live any way we want without doing damage to the planet.“

This potential is very interesting. The big word here has only two letters: “if”.

Our planet could be free from ruinous pollution, and greedy exploitation long time ago. There are always stumbling blocks preventing this, and they are more serious (in our times even ominous) than just the lack of cheap technological solutions. One of them is identified in God's Word, the Bible in its first book – Genesis.

In the description of earth's condition before the Flood it goes on to say:

(Genesis 6:11, 12)

11 But the earth had become ruined in the sight of the true God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 Yes, God looked upon the earth, and it was ruined; all flesh had ruined its way on the earth.

That was at the time long before the industrial revolution and current ignorant mismanagement of our planet. Yet the planet was ruined. What was ruining it? Violence inspired by greed and selfishness.

Don't we have the same situation in our times? The daily news reports provide the answer.

Someone has made an effort to estimate what could be done for the costs associated with the WWII.

If – again the big “if” - all the effort, time and resources were used instead, for peaceful activity, then every family on this planet would enjoy a 5-bedroom house, plus in every town of 5000 population there could be a perfectly equipped hospital.

And today the nations spent much more on armaments, and on security, with no relief in sight.

We live in very ominous times. Even the hands of the so called “doomsday clock” were moved last week 2 minutes closer to the midnight and set at 3 minutes to midnight, representing the “doomsday”.

Fortunately the Creator of our planet has something better for the future of our planet with its potential to become a global, delightful paradise. Read about this by exploring the popular site: jw.org.
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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2015 11:45:57 AM

It's all about energy folks. If we can control sufficient quantities of energy it is entirely possible to live any way we want without doing damage to the planet, and in fact it would be possible to re-mediate past damage. As a quick example, once we get to the point of being able to control fusion safely in a reactor, the era of fossil fuels will end within a few decades because the quantity of energy available from fusion is so much greater and will cost so much less than fossil fuels.

If you can turn sea water into energy in a cost effective manner (the fuel for a fusion reactor would come from sea water), then a whole lot of things become possible that just aren't practical today. For example, with enough cheap energy the water problems in areas like the southwest could be a thing of the past, because with sufficient very cheap energy sea water can be desalinated on a massive scale. Right now that process is only practical in places were there is absolutely no water, and where people are willing to pay a great deal in terms of the energy cost in order to have at least some water. The cost per gallon of fresh water produced this way currently is far in excess of the cost of a say a gallon of fuel. Therefore it's use is restricted to those who want the water bad enough to be willing to pay through the nose to get it (e.g. there are desalination plants in Saudi Arabia because they have lots of oil for fuel but almost no fresh water).

With a massive change in the amount of energy available to us and a commensurate lowering of the cost, our whole way of life would change for the better.

For interesting reading on the concept see:

Kardashev Energy Scale for Civilizations


mudtoe

[Edited by: mudtoe at 1/26/2015 12:47:48 PM EST]
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In his new book "Reasons for Wrath", the noted French agronomist René Dumont decries what he calls the “total failure” of our “production-oriented civilization.” A book review in the Paris daily Le Monde thus summarizes some examples cited by Dumont: “In order to meet the tremendous demand for newsprint, every year Canada cuts down more trees than it can grow; the Soviet Union has worked to death two thirds of its arable land. And even France is reportedly ‘destroying the fertility of her soil, built up by centuries of manure and fodder farming,’ by using chemical instead of natural fertilizers.”

Dumont also accuses the industrial nations of ‘perverting’ the planet by wastefulness and mismanaged distribution of goods, adding: “We have managed the world economy so badly that we deserve to lose our supremacy.” He claims that the Western model of development “has ruined the economy of the Third World” and has sucked people away from agricultural development into “hideous cities” that have grown in the less developed nations.

If such conditions give “reasons for wrath” to humans who foresee the peril, how much more reason for wrath should these factors give to the One who created this planet? Thus the Bible prophetically describes the fast-approaching time when mankind’s ruinous activities will bring God’s “own wrath,” causing him to “bring to ruin those ruining the earth.”—Revelation 11:18.
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2014 10:34:57 AM

"We will save the Planet only when we the People get involved in the process!"

A total of 1,004 rhinos in South Africa were illegally killed in 2013, compared with just 13 in 2007. Despite this increased supply of rhino horn, though, it continues to be in such high demand that it can cost more per kilogram than gold. A single horn can fetch up to half a million dollars.

Can "we the People" stop this kind of lawlessness? The historical and current efforts of men have failed. "We the People" are not in position to eliminate all the governments that the poster described as "short-sighted", and another poster as greedy for financial gain. All these governments just verify the plain truth recorded over 2600 years ago:

(Jeremiah 10:23) 23 "I well know, O Jehovah, that man’s way does not belong to him. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step."

Before the God loving people can embark on a meaningful care for our planet, care assisted by its Creator there is one thing that must take place before. It is spelled out in the Bible, in Daniel 2:44:

44 “In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever.”

This is exactly the kingdom that Jesus thought his followers to pray for its coming. The time for its coming is fast approaching, and its coming will not be peaceful, because one of the things that it will do first is "to bring to ruin those ruining the earth". Revelation 11:18

Isn't that a comforting thought to contemplate?


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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2014 2:17:24 AM

We will save the Planet only when we the People get involved in the process! Politicians are short sighted only can only think from one election to the next!
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I doubt it.

Governments only do things if there is something to be gained, be it a political vote at the UN or NATO for example, financial gain or by raping another country of its resources while the citizens there remain poor.

What do you think most conflicts, be it terrorism or war, are about.
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2014 8:18:33 AM

herbiepopnecker: "Or use the gifts you were given to better things?"

Can I ask for some suggestions as to those "better things"?
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Message Posted: Dec 15, 2014 11:57:13 PM

Oh good advice. Just die... ??
Or use the gifts you were given to better things?
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herbiepopnecker: "The meek shall inherit the Earth. What's left of it.... "

That does not sound very encouraging. But only from the perspective of those that ignore the one that has made this well known promise. He is also the one that created our fascinating planet perfectly suited for all kinds of life, and everything for man's enjoyment. He demonstrated that he has the power to control the natural forces in a very selective and intelligent manner.

For example he foretold, by giving certain dreams to Pharaoh of Egypt, that there would be seven years of plenty and bountiful crops in Egypt followed by seven years of famine that will consume the land, and He made sure that this took place as this harmonized with His purpose. Genesis ch. 41.

The same God was able to control all the ten plagues that came upon Egypt not only as to their timing, but also with some of them making the distinction as to who would be affected by them. He was able to protect the Israelites, and their fields in Egypt limiting the plagues only to the Egyptians and their lands.

Gods Son, Jesus was able to instantly calm the violent storm on the Sea of Galilee that has caused his disciples to panic. Jesus also cursed a fig tree which the next morning completely dried up.

Having these abilities and powers over the nature, God and His Son can certainly use them to make sure that the earth that the meek will inherit will come back to the original condition when He created it. God - loving people can rest assured that in the new world under His Kingdom, there will be no natural disaster, with no polluted places like Chernobyl or Fukushima, with all the elements perfectly adjusted and tuned up for the optimal benefits of all God's worshippers.

"The meek will inherit the earth" is only the first part of the divine promise. The second is: "...And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace. (Psalm 37:11)

Isn't that a comforting thought to contemplate in the context of our planet's real potential and its great need for tender loving care?


[Edited by: Chipmunk2 at 12/13/2014 11:03:52 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2014 8:04:33 PM

The meek shall inherit the Earth. What's left of it....
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chocolateflash: "We the people have to do it ourselves."

"We the people" have tried it throughout millenniums. And the state of the planet shows that "we the people" need help from our Creator. Only he knows how the intricacies of our planet's ecosystems work. Not only that, he is willing to teach us as this heartwarming appeal shows:

(Isaiah 48:17, 18) "17 This is what Jehovah says, your Repurchaser, the Holy One of Israel: “I, Jehovah, am your God, The One teaching you to benefit yourself, The One guiding you in the way you should walk. 18 If only you would pay attention to my commandments! Then your peace would become just like a river And your righteousness like the waves of the sea.”"

Anyone still believing that "we the people have to do it ourselves" shows how oblivious he is not only to the historical and current failures of man to eradicate wars, poverty, injustice, and death but also to stop ruining our planet.

Even well known atheist in his desperation warns that:
artificial intelligence could end mankind

[Edited by: Chipmunk2 at 12/3/2014 8:31:46 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2014 9:17:38 PM

All you Bible pounders listen up. God helps him who helps himself and pointing to the Bible says this or the Bible says that won't cut it. We the people have to do it ourselves and as long as we remain a fractured group, nothing will happen--guarantee it. If you don't believe that, get on your knees and pray--and watch your trousers wear out at the knees. Have a good day!
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zippy3231: "...this Once Proud Christian Nation is being driven into Moral bankruptcy!"

This should not be surprising to the sincere Bible students. God's Word shows that not only USA but also all other nations are currently governed by God's adversary, Satan the Devil. Nothing has changed since the time when Satan oferred all the kingdoms of the world to him just for an act of worship to him. Satan said to Jesus:

(Luke 4:6) “6 I will give you all this authority and their glory, because it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish."

Jesus did not deny nor challenged Satan's authority, but Satan's offer he firmly rejected.

He knew that his Father's offer is much superior to Satan's. His Father already empowered and appointed him to become a world king. In fact he is already ruling in his heavenly position ready to smash to pieces all his enemies.

Psalm 2:9: "9 You will break them with an iron scepter, And you will smash them like a piece of pottery."

Revelation 2:26, 27: "26 And to the one who conquers and observes my deeds down to the end, I will give authority over the nations, 27 and he will shepherd the people with an iron rod so that they will be broken to pieces like clay vessels, just as I have received from my Father."

After that Jesus will turn attention to the wicked ruler of this world. John 14:30; 1 John 5:19. Jesus action was already indicated in the divine promise made in the garden of Eden right after the rebellion that Satan instigated. Genesis 3:15 says that Satan's head will be fataly crushed under the heel of Jesus. Then Jesus will start tu rule as king without any interference from the wicked Satan and his demons. What a relief that will be, not only for those privileged to survive these foretold confrontations but also to our planet that was created to be inhabited by a happy human family. (Isaiah 45:18) Finally, the deplorable process of ruining, exploiting it with greed, and polluting it with ignorance will stop. This is the good news that is preached worldwide to comfort those that are sincerely concerned about the state of the planet, and feel powerless to do anything about it.

You can read more about God's Kingdom in the brochure: "GOOD NEWS FROM GOD!"
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Message Posted: Nov 27, 2014 9:11:13 AM

There is only one World Leader that can save and will save the Planet-JESUS CHRIST! The present World Leaders have only brought us Wars, Political, Religious and Cultural Hatred!

Threw separation of the Masses they Keep Control! Ferguson MO is the perfect example of separation of the Races! The Media and the People of the US are falling into this Trap!

Tell me, what does looting and rioting in Pittsburgh PA, Cleveland OH, New York NY, Los Angeles CA and Jacksonville Florida have to do with the shooting in Missouri?

Once the Rioting spreads Martial Law and loss of all Civil Rights is sure to follow! People the Media and Governments can care less about you! Don not fall into this Demonic Trap!

Meanwhile back on the farm while you are looting and burning, Laws are being passed-under the table, a, The 17 Trillion Dollar Debt continues to grow
and this Once Proud Christian Nation is being driven into Moral bankruptcy!
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chocolateflash: "These accords don't kick in until both have been out of office for so long that everybody will have forgotten both politicians."

Would the new politicians do a better job in dealing with the pollution?

PROPOSALS abound for curing the world’s ills. In general, they call for concern and cooperation, as well as for a monumental coordinated effort by all nations worldwide. There is a feeling that as situations worsen, the need for mutual preservation will force the nations to reevaluate their priorities and work together to form a new and sustainable world. It is envisioned that military budgets will be cut heavily in favor of using resources to address environmental threats. It has been suggested that rather than maintaining their own large defense establishments, governments may come to rely on a greatly expanded and strengthened U.N. peacekeeping force, one that would have the power and authority to defend any member country against an aggressor.

But such plans fall far short of bringing about the conditions yearned for groaning mankind. Mere human strategies can in no way cure human sinfulness and greed; they do not eliminate prejudice and ethnic strife; they do not engender unselfish love among all mankind; neither can they guarantee an end to disease and death. Crime is not effectively addressed, nor is there any mention of overcoming religious differences and hatreds. And eliminating natural disasters cannot even be considered. Nationalism, with its potential for causing problems, is allowed to remain. Unhappily, then, we must conclude that humans have failed to come up with a workable solution.

Yet, there is a solution! Indeed, all these things yearned for by mankind have been promised, and the promise comes from the God “who cannot lie.” (Titus 1:2) He knows exactly what must be done, and he has the wisdom, the power, and the ability to accomplish what he has purposed.—Revelation 7:12; 19:1.

God promises: “Just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more; and you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be. But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, and they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.”—Psalm 37:10,11.

How will this be accomplished? Isaiah 11:9 answers: “They will not do any harm or cause any ruin in all my holy mountain; because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters are covering the very sea.” Yes, all mankind will be instructed in “the knowledge of Jehovah,” and any individuals refusing to comply therewith will not be allowed to remain and disrupt the peace of others. No longer will our beautiful earth be ruined.

“Behold the activities of Jehovah ... He is making wars to cease to the extremity of the earth,” promises Psalm 46:8,9. (See also Micah 4:3,4.) An important factor in making global peace is ending nationalistic differences. Cooperation is guaranteed, for only one government will exist worldwide—that of God. And his government is a Kingdom “that will never be brought to ruin.” (Daniel 2:44) Moreover, its King is the resurrected, immortal Jesus Christ, whose rule will be by means of justice and righteousness.—Isaiah 9:6,7; 32:1.

But would this be spoiled by man’s inherent imperfection and be marred by continued pain, sickness, sorrow, and death? No, for these too will be things of the past. Revelation 21:4 assures us: “And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.” Inherited sin will be forgiven on the basis of Jesus’ ransom sacrifice, and mankind will be brought back to a perfect state. (Romans 6:23; Ephesians 1:7) And who can better control natural forces and keep them from harming mankind than their Creator?—Psalm 148:5-8; Isaiah 30:30.

Things man can only hope for and dream of, God will deliver. Take time to check into those promises recorded in the Bible. For on this point, both knowledgeable men and God agree: Now is the time for a new world!
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2014 1:18:16 PM

Saw a cartoon in THE WEEK. Obummer and the Chinese premier are standing at their lecterns. The Chinese premier says, "I'll be happy to sign the accord" where is it? The pollution (smog) in Beijing being so thick he couldn't find the agreement. These accords don't kick in until both have been out of office for so long that everybody will have forgotten both politicians. What's all the noise about? Another meaningless 'accomplishment' for a know nothing politician.
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2014 8:24:51 PM

zippy3231: "We elect the people in office and fall for the lie that we have no power over them! We eat items that we know are bad for us and do not speak up! "We the People" changed the Planet by forming the United States of America and do not excrescence that Power! "We elect the people in office and fall for the lie that we have no power over them!"

That is the sad reality. It can be very frustrating and resulting in hopelessness. When people in general do not have hope then they act without giving consideration for the future of our planet and for the next generations that may come to live on it.

It is exactly as the Bible states: (Isaiah 22:13) "...there is celebration and rejoicing, The killing of cattle and the slaughtering of sheep, The eating of meat and the drinking of wine. ‘Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we will die."

Therefore people that love this planet and are sincerely concerned about its future can be comforted by the fact that our Creator has not forgotten his creation nor has he abandoned his purpose for creating it. His purpose is clearly stated in his Word, the Bible:

(Isaiah 45:18) "For this is what Jehovah says, The Creator of the heavens, the true God, The One who formed the earth, its Maker who firmly established it, Who did not create it simply for nothing, but formed it to be inhabited: “I am Jehovah, and there is no one else."

Yes, God did not create the earth for nothing, or to become completely ruined and empty. We can be confident that his purpose stated in Eden to the first couple, to have the earth populated and under peaceful control (with his guidance, of course) will be successfully realized. His words that spell out his purpose do not return to him unfulfilled as the Bible states:

(Isaiah 55:10, 11) "10 For just as the rain and the snow pour down from heaven And do not return there until they saturate the earth, making it produce and sprout, Giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater, 11 So my word that goes out of my mouth will be. It will not return to me without results, But it will certainly accomplish whatever is my delight, And it will have sure success in what I send it to do."

But you may ask: How will God Save the Earth? This is a valid question considering the failures of elected governments in making meaningful progress to stop ruining the planet.

This question has been answered in the article: "HOW THE EARTH WILL BE SAVED"



[Edited by: Chipmunk2 at 10/4/2014 9:28:14 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2014 9:35:26 AM

We the Humans have been given the ability from a Gracious GOD-Jehovah God- to solve all its problems! Those in power do nut want a unified Human Race! You can blame it on Religion is you wish! When religion and all Moral Concepts are removed who will be next on your Hit Parade to Blame?

For we do not wrestle against Flesh and Blood but Spirits in High Places!

All we are concerned about is the here and now! How much money can I or we make now! I can care less about the long term effects of fracking as long as I get cheap gas now! I can care less about defect spending and the fact the city of Jacksonville Florida just borrowed $43 Million Dollars to have the worlds largest scoreboard I want my entertainment now!

We elect the people in office and fall for the lie that we have no power over them! We eat items that we know are bad for us and do not speak up! "We the People" changed the Planet by forming the United States of America and do not excrescence that Power!

Yes it is all coming to a End as foretold in the Bible because Man will not properly worship a Loving GOD! Go ahead and remove the last Moral Person from the Planet and see how bad it will be!

You will want it and -GOD- will give it all to you in the form of the Anti-Christ!
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2014 1:17:03 PM

Eradication of religions responsible for so much suffering on our beautiful planet would be a desirable thing to take place. As much as we would like to see them gone, there are more important things to be considered: What next?

If in the process of religions' eradication there are any survivors (that's highly impossible from the atheistic point of view), what kind of planet will they inherit? How will they clean up such life-threatening sites like Chernobyl in Ukraine, and Fukushima in Japan.

What will motivate the survivors to love one another with a love that is self-sacrificing, patient and kind, not jealous, that does not brag, does not get puffed up, ?does not behave indecently, does not look for its own interests, does not become provoked does not keep account of the injury.

This is not easy with anyone now, including atheists. The believers are keenly aware of this with the understanding that the bad qualities of the human nature are the result of the inherited sin. And the sincere believers humbly beg the Creator for forgiveness on a daily basis. Is there any reason to believe that it will be easy with the atheists who ignore the fact that we are sinners as descendants of the rebellious couple Adam and Eve to get rid of selfishness, greed, pride, jealousy?

Atheists may ignore the warning of the war of Armageddon that will be directed by God and his angels, with the selective results of his choice. Are the atheists able to prevent the other kind of Armageddon that the secular news media sometimes speak about, (financial, ecological, epidemic, celestial, nuclear)? How will the other kinds of Armageddons, with the random consequences, ensure the planets survival, let alone recovery?
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2014 1:50:21 AM

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